Re: Gum hardening: top down experiment ( pointlessness)

From: Sandy King ^lt;sanking@CLEMSON.EDU>
Date: 04/13/06-10:04:59 AM Z
Message-id: <p06020420c0641fa0a6cf@[130.127.230.212]>

Terry,

Dude, you need to lighten up big time. The tests that Katharine and
Marek have conducted, wherever they lead, contribute at least as much
to the community as moralizing about the responsibilities of the
"leading lights" of the community.

Sandy

>Sandy
>
>People come to this list hoping for information and intelligent
>debate. When they find long drawn out accounts related to pointless
>tests, they leave. Do you consider that to be acceptable ?
>
>As a leading light in this community for some years you, Sandy, have
>a responsibility to offer guidance suggesting that these pointless
>debates do not happen just as much as you take your responsibilities
>seriously in offering advice as to how to do things.. Saying, as
>you do, "if you think the tests are a waste of time, stay away from
>them" just reduces the standard of debate and the usefulness of the
>list. That is irresponsible. It is a surprising attitude for a
>teacher.
>
>I am not the only one here who has pointed out that many of these
>tests are 'worthless', 'pointless.', 'serve no useful purpose'. The
>people who make these comments are not arrogant, not only do they
>not want their time wasted, they are concerned that those new to
>alternative processes may be tempted to take this stuff seriously..
>Many people just leave finding the list a waste of their time. Is
>that what you want ? What is perhaps worse, is that many who could
>make a really worthwhile contribution just lurk as the standard of
>debate is often so low.. Is that what you want ?
>
>Thank the Lord that there is no academie de gomme. The difficulty
>here is that the list is pontificated to, your words, by those with
>no understanding of how gum behaves, again your words..
>
>Terry
>
>To paraphrase Gertrude Stein, a gum is a gum is a gum whether it
>comes out of a factory or a tree.
>
>
>
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>In a message dated 13/4/06 2:22:33 pm, sanking@CLEMSON.EDU writes:
>
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>>Terry,
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>>Why the "I do wish though is that we could avoid these tests"
>>lament? There is absolutely nothing keeping you from avoiding
>>them. If you think the tests are a waste of time, stay away from
>>them. But if others believe something useful might come of them,
>>who are you to pontificate about how they should be spending their
>>time, or suggest that it is a "waste of time." That is a fairly
>>arrogant attitude in my book. As far as I know there is no Academie
>>des gommistes to dictate how we use the sticky sap. If there were
>>you would be brought up on charges for using that kid's glue/gloy
>>stuff instead of *real* gum.
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>>I think it is well and good that people have been getting good
>>results for the past 150 years making gum prints the traditional
>>way, but a but of curiosity about other ways should hardly pose a
>>threat to the establishment.
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>>Sandy
Received on Thu Apr 13 10:05:25 2006

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