Re: kallitype problem

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From: Arie (ariek@pacbell.net)
Date: 07/26/03-01:00:04 AM Z


Hi Sandy
That's kinda what I was thinking, since we ruled out pretty much any other
variable. That's why I ordered a batch of new raw chemistry, including
sodium citrate to try that as a developer. I also thought that the clearing
solution concentration was excessive, but I was trying every variable
Arie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy King" <sanking@clemson.edu>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: kallitype problem

> Just another thought. Maybe something is wrong with that developer.
> In my experience after developing Stonhenge Rising in 20% Sodium
> Citrate there is very little clearing required, perhaps no more than
> 2-4 minutes in a 3% citric acid bath.
>
> Sandy King
>
>
>
>
> >Hi Arie,
> >
> >
> >If you go to http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Kallitype/kallitype.html
> >and follow the directions you will make good kallitypes.
> >
> >Sandy King
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi, sorry for the long message, but I need to give all the info
first.....
> >>
> >>I need to send this out to the list, because during the past week I've
been
> >>on the phone to B&S almost everyday (this month's phone bill will be
> >>murder). Right now it seems I have both Dana and Kevin Sullivan
stumped.
> >>
> >>First the background......the past few months I've been concentrating on
Van
> >>Dijk Bruin prints to get back in to the swing of traditional printing.
> >>(they are relativly quick cheap and easy......kinda like me in my
twentys)
> >>When I went to switch to Kallitypes I went and tested a number of papers
> >>with a Stoufers 21 step wedge so that I could dial every thing in. The
> >>papers that I tested were :
> >>
> >>Coventry Rag
> >>Rising Stonehenge
> >>Arches Platine
> >>Strathmore Bristol regular surface
> >>Cot 320
> >>
> >>They all had fogging in the highlights that would not clear. My process
was
> >>to coat the paper and let it dry in complete darkness before exposure.
> >>After exposure it was developed for 5 minutes in B&S Kallitype Black
> >>developer, followed by a two minute rinse in running filtered water.
This
> >>was follwed by a clearing bath of both EDTA and citric acid then another
> >>rinse, for the initial tests I did two batches one was toned in platinum
the
> >>other was not. This was finished with a 5% fix and a proper wash.
> >>
> >>Initially I thought it was the lighting in the darkroom, so I changed it
to
> >>even a dimmer light than what I had. Still the same. After speaking
with
> >>Dana I tried his suggestion of processing a coated and dried sheet
without
> >>exposure....still no clearing. I even tried his other suggestion of
> >>changing the amount of FeOx in the sensitizer....no go.
> >>
> >>The next day I spoke with Kevin, he said its the most fickle of all the
> >>processes (much like some old girlfriends years ago) and suggested hot
> >>developer and maybe a new coating rod (I use thick plexi
tubing)....still
> >>the same. Though this time I punched the concentration of the clearing
bath
> >>up to 7% citric acid and 3% EDTA....there was a slightly better result.
> >>Instead of being a dark beigey stain that appears as soon as the
developer
> >>hits it, and hangs in till the end, this time it cleared a little.
> >>
> >>So the next day I was back on the phone with Kevin. We were left with
both
> >>of us scratching our heads, with the only thing left to try was still a
more
> >>concentrated citric acid solution. I tried it but there is still a
> >>stain/fog.
> >>
> >>So right now I'm waiting for new chemistry to start again from the
begining.
> >>Either that or just listen to Kevin and jump to platinum...but I would
> >>still like to master the Kallitype and its range of colors.
> >>
> >>Has anyone had a similar experience? If so were you able to correct it
and
> >>HOW!!!!!
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>Arie Knoops
>


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