Re: Cyanotype

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From: Stane Kocar (revija.les@siol.net)
Date: 04/09/02-12:15:07 AM Z


I must say that I have similar troubles.
Since I made 200 good cyanotypes (old formula with oxalic acid and potassium
dicrhomate added - no bleeding, strong coor, almost no fade) I decided to
try Mike Wares version.
After trying quite a few sort of papers I am bitterly dissapointed. Blue
color dissapears in acidified water very quickly (after a minute almost
gone, color is very pale - nothing from advantages Mike says), picture is
almost impossible to clear, it has yellow stain.

My procedure:
Papers - among others Fabriano Watercolor, Fabriano 4, Fabriano 6. All works
well for Van Dyke Brown print, the best for this proces is Fabriano
Watercolor.
Coating: with sponge brush
Drying: at least 1 hour in dark.
Exposure: 7-10 min on midday sun (6-10 min for my old cyanotypes).
Clearing: water + citric acid

Can anybody tell me, where I made mistake?

Stanislav Kocar, Slovenia, Europe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Cc: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: Cyanotype

>
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Philippe Monnoyer wrote:
>
> > Maybe this is often asked but here is my question:
> > How to avoid a cyanotype print to readily dissapear in a blue particles
> > cloud in the first water bath.
>
> Philippe, If the runoff is blue that means it's exposed, not underexposed,
> and for whatever reason didn't soak into the paper. You could be using a
> non-absorbent paper, or a gelatin sized paper (a no-no for cyano) it
> doesn't sink in through, or maybe coating with puddle pusher, which also
> tends to sit on top not absorb. Or possibly your emulsion is too fresh,
> may wash off if it hasn't been aged in the bottle a couple of days -- or
> that's the case with REGULAR cyano. I've never used the upgrade, which I
> believe can be temperamental.
>
> Or another thought -- are you heat drying the emulsion? That can dry it
> as surface skin before it soaks into the paper, in which case it will also
> wash off.
>
> Of course the grand irony is that one reason Ware invented the "New
> Cyanotype" was sight of blue down the drain. We never knew why because
> around here it doesn't happen. Maybe it's something European? (Is Buxton
> in Europe?)
>
> best,
>
> Judy
>
>
> > I just started cyanotype printing w/ Mike Ware recipe (but twice as
> > concentrated)and the image does not remain on the paper when processed
> > ...
> > Any suggestions ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Philippe Monnoyer
> > Belgium
> >
>


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