From: shaun bear (shaun_bear@hotmail.com)
Date: 09/13/01-03:37:18 PM Z
My remarks were directed at the original post and not you personally. It
strikes me that the original intention of the post was to denigrate the US
friends and allies for there lack of support and the supposed inequity in
there relationship with the US. These sentiments apparently resonated for
Nick Marris. Apparently Nick Marris does not pay careful attention to the
news or international affairs. If he did he would see how insulting this
post is to US allies. Did he not hear Tony Blair's pledge to stand next
America as Britain has always done so in past or NATO pledge of support .I
don't really want to debate this at this time either.It is hard to stand by
when someone denegrates one's country in this way.
>From: Thor Bols <thorbols@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>Subject: Re: Editorial broadcast from Toronto
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 02:55:43 +0700
>
>Whoa! I prefaced my note with "noble sentiments" out of respect for the
>intention of the original poster of this tidbit, who I am sure had good
>intentions. It was not meant to be an editorial comment.
>
>Please keep these two points in mind:
>
>1) these words of tribute were made almost thirty years ago.
>2) they have been significantly altered from the original
>
>
>>This is the first time I have replied to this list. I don't find this
>>sentiment noble at all. As a British citizen I am offended by this
>>sentiment
>>suggested in this mail. It demonstrates a base xenophobia that tradegies
>>such as this always inspire. Great Britain has been a loyal staunch ally
>>to
>>the USA in every conflict and crisis that the US has faced and to not
>>recognize this fact is an insult to all british people. In reference to
>>WW2
>>do you honestly believe that US sacrifice was any greater or more noble
>>than
>>that of GB. My sympathies and prayers are with all victims of this horror.
>>God bless america and the rest of the free world were ever it may be
>>found.
>>
>>
>>>From: Thor Bols <thorbols@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>>>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>>>Subject: Re: Editorial broadcast from Toronto
>>>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:25:28 +0700
>>>
>>>Noble sentiments, indeed. But it might be useful to note that Mr.
>>>Sinclair
>>>made these statements in 1973.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Nick Makris <nick@mcn.org>
>>>>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>>>>To: Alt Photo <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
>>>>Subject: Editorial broadcast from Toronto
>>>>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:10:35 -0700
>>>>
>>>>Received the following and just feel that it is worthy of review.
>>>>Actually received it twice this morning.
>>>>
>>>>America: The Good Neighbor.
>>>>Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
>>>>remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
>>>>Canadian
>>>>television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant
>>>>remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
>>>>
>>>>"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the
>>>>most
>>>>generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.
>>>>
>>>>Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted
>>>>out
>>>>of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars
>>>>and
>>>>forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying
>>>>even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
>>>>
>>>>When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans
>>>>who
>>>>propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
>>>>streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
>>>>
>>>>When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that
>>>>hurries
>>>>in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by
>>>>tornadoes. Nobody helped.
>>>>
>>>>The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into
>>>>discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing
>>>>about
>>>>the decadent, warmongering Americans.
>>>>
>>>>I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
>>>>erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any
>>>>other
>>>>country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
>>>>Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them?
>>>>Why
>>>>do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
>>>>
>>>>Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
>>>>the
>>>>moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk
>>>>about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about
>>>>American
>>>>technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times
>>>>and safely home again.
>>>>
>>>>You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
>>>>window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not
>>>>pursued
>>>>and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
>>>>they
>>>>are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa
>>>>at
>>>>home to spend here.
>>>>
>>>>When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
>>>>through
>>>>age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania
>>>>Railroad
>>>>and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose.
>>>>Both are still broke.
>>>>
>>>>I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
>>>>people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced
>>>>to
>>>>the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even
>>>>during
>>>>the San Francisco earthquake.
>>>>
>>>>Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned
>>>>tired
>>>>of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
>>>>their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose
>>>>at
>>>>the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada
>>>>is
>>>>not one of those."
>>>>
>>>>Stand proud, America!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--------------------------------------------
>>>>x;-)>=
>>>>
>>>>galen@diamondjim.Com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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