From: Richard Sullivan FRPS (richsul@earthlink.net)
Date: 06/27/01-01:50:21 PM Z
Kerik,
Been spending the day at the computer -- doing APIS badges etc. I do have 
another life but I need a break once in a while. Bostick has me on a short 
leash today so I can't go buzzing about town so I'll bug the folks here.
If we are talking about Kodak Studio Proof that was owl residue 
masquerading as POP paper. It was a "proof" paper as the box said. I worked 
back in 1982 with Karl Struss. Struss was published in 1905 in Camera 
Works. Now if that don't shake you up! He was 96 at the time and lived to 
be close to 100. His wife died a week after he did and she was about the 
same age. Cool! Not her dying but that they lived so long.
Stephen White was setting up Karl's estate and was to be his 
executor.  Karl was commissioned to print a limited edition portrait of 
Stephen and his wife Mus for Stephen's Gallery's 10th birthday party. I was 
the gopher and assistant for Karl.
Whew! Did he blow a storm over the Studio Proof paper. "Get me some real 
POP paper, this is ()*_)(&^%# " and some untranslatable German flashed 
about leaving flaming streaks in the air.
"This is proof paper!" It was all there was that I could find at the time 
but he sure wasn't happy with it.
Proofing POP was designed for portrait photogs to make a quick dry contact 
print and send it to the sitter for approval. Since it was not fixed and 
toned, it faded after a short while. Some Napster like folks at the time 
would have them fixed and toned by an unscrupulous darkroom owner but since 
it was a little muddy that too wasn't an answer.
Trivia:
I once read that in the late 1800's NYNY had one portrait studio for every 
1000 residents. Said to be perhaps twice that many as many didn't get 
listed in the City Directories as they were small neighborhood firms who 
didn't buy space in the directories.
--Dick
--Dick
At 02:13 PM 6/27/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Carl,
>
>You're absolutely right. Today's Centennial is likely to be very different 
>from older versions of POP. The only other one I used was the previous 
>version of this paper (~10 years ago?) that was made by a company in 
>France. I believe the current paper is made by Kentmere in England.
>
>My only recollection of the older version of the paper was that I didn't 
>like the results!  Very inconsistent, especially at the toning step. 
>Admittedly, 10 years ago I was a beginner at all this stuff and the 
>quality of my negs from back then were also all over the map.
>
>Kerik
>
> >Kerik,
> >I wonder how much variation there is between POP
> >papers? Centenial seems to be the only one around,
> >but perhaps it's quite different from other
> >previously available materials? Glad you have
> >current experience with it.---Carl
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