Richard Sullivan (richsul@earthlink.net)
Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:36:37 -0600
>
>It is however interesting that this only occurs with the Sodium
>Tungstate.  WHY?  Have you repeated (without the Sodium Tungstate) as
>you said this originally gave a print which "came out fine"?  Or does
>this still give some mottled appearance?
>
>--
>Jeffrey D. Mathias
>http://home.att.net/~jeffrey.d.mathias/
The sodium tungstate will under certain chemical conditions react and form 
tungstic acid. (I learned this from Tony Mclean) The order in which it is 
added to the emulsion is critical. FO + ST + LIPD is the order not FO + 
LIPD + ST which will clump and take several minutes to redissolve. It is 
quite possible that the sodium tungstate is reacting to something in the 
paper and forming the clumpy tungstic acid.
I came upon the use of sodium tungstate thinking it might be a substitute 
for mercury that was commonly used in the older platinum papers and 
processes. It worked and turned the prints brown but with a decidedly 
different look than cesium palladium produces. BTW, lead compounds appeared 
to produce brown prints as well but curiously uranyl nitrate appeared to 
have no effect. My thoughts were that the presence of large heavy molecules 
were interfering with the deposition of the metal particles somehow and 
thereby affecting the color.
Light and heavy issues play a part in the Ziatype system. Lithium is the 
third lightest element and cesium is way down at the bottom of the chart 
and is very heavy.
I've tinkered a bit with really loading up the print with lots of tungsten 
with some interesting results. It produced a soft delicate print with good 
dmax. Sodium tungstate can be mixed in an 88% solution btw which is pretty 
astounding from such a heavy compound. Its main industrial use is in fire 
proofing fabric.
--Dick
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